Planned War Outcomes…?

You will hear many people talk about wars and their outcomes being planned by governments, or even secret elite in high political positions. Can this be true? Are all wars planned or just some? How can this be? Well, some “innocent predictions” sometimes appear too accurate to be a coincidence. One example is the disintegration of former Yugoslavia. Below is an article What Did Surrealist Foretell taken from that talks about a popular comedy show, called Top List Surrealist, watched all over Yugoslavia prior to the bloody 1990s war:

In his article ” What did Surrealists Foretell” Amir Telibecirovic writes:

“So, in 1981, they began a career over the radio that a few years later moved to the TV studio, after which nothing was as before in that type of media. About the members of the surrealists so much more is told, recorded, written and discovered, so I really have nothing new to say about them, either individually or collectively. But in their skits, ideas and messages, there are the things that the surrealists , consciously or unconsciously, predicted through humor.” Telibecirovic points several important events that took place either during or after the 1990s Yugoslav war and which were aired in the pre-war Top List Surrealists show:

Journey to the center of a ship
Top List Surrealists were TV episodes from the early eighties (remember, the war did not start in ex-Yugoslavia until 1991). Surrealists made a parod of the animated series by Jules Verne’s “Journey to the Center of the Earth.” According to the story, a professor and his assistant travel to the center of the earth and just when they are almost there, they are greeted by a customs officer at the entrance to the center. Professor operates somewhat retarded, and on virtually every question responds with the “great question”. The customs officer begins the story about the center of the earth they wish to enter, as on a ship that is slowly going down more and more, year after year, and as he does not understand why would one enter into the center of such a country. Here, of course, it is referring to a country, that is Yugoslavia, together with the center of the country, as the first ship sinking because of pressure from the then inflation and international debts, and eventually sank all the way as it is known.

Religious instruction in kindergarten:

In one episode we are shown segregation of children in a kindergarten called “Brothers who stick together” by religious or ethnic background. Scenes of this episode were filmed a few years before the war in Bosnia & Herzegovina (now an independent nation, but in ex-Yugoslavia it was one of its six republics). As already known, today in many Bosnian schools and kindergartens children are divided into Serbian, Bosniak and Croat, and often they are separately educated (two schools under one roof). School programs are also different, and are adapted to the nationalistic education. focused In particular on different history, geography, religion and mother tongue.

The gangsters and smugglers
In this mid -eighties episode we see all prominent places in Sarajevo (Bosnian capital) are controlled  by an imaginary gang notoriously called “Mahir S”….A famous “Kung Fu” crime fighter, named Fu Do, was supposed to expose the alleged gang Mahir S. who is, among other things, engaged in smuggling of jeans. Here we can  identify later organized crime by the appearance of local gangs in Sarajevo and elsewhere, led by former small and large grain smugglers. Some of them will have to do with corrupt politicians. The only thing still missing is crime-fighter Fu Do, although we can further debate about this.

Separatists and their “home country”
Episode was aired in the mid eighties. A TV News report is shown indicating the Eskimos and penguins problems, and ethnic conflicts in the north of Sweden, which would, as a region to secede and join the “parent Arctic”. This is actually recognizable scenario of what happened in the next decade in Kosovo (now also an independent nation, but used to be an autonomy in ex-Yugoslavia) and in Bosnia. Direct irony was the sketch of the same episode, in which an Albanian patisserie owner hires Swedish refugees out of compassion.” It is important to note that Sweden was one of the first countries willing to receive Bosnian refugees in 1990s. By some estimates there are over 50,000 Bosnians living in Sweeden.

Telebecirovic continues:

In this episode of 1989, referred to the cantons in Bosnia established after the 1990s war. At the time, few knew what the cantons are….much less was known that they (cantons) will be establish in Bosnia.” Shortly after the war the politicians discussed how to organize Bosnia and soon the cantons were officially established.

Telibecirovic further writes:

West Sarajevo – East Sarajevo
A couple of years before Sarajevo was under siege, a skit was aired showing trash collectors beat the waste bins from two sides of a wall dividing the capital of Bosnia–Sarajevo.” During the war “Sarajevo was partially divided by the river Miljacka,and” this divison “continued after the war, only with slightly dislocated limits. The same thing happened in Mostar, and some other cities, villages and regions, and continues to this day. Post-war segregation and apartheid are almost directly provided for in the skits. There are now a recognized geographical and administrative terms – East Sarajevo in the RS (Serb Republic entity), while the Western Sarajevo is in the Federation entity” (the Western Sarajevo has not been officially named as such). Disturbed interpretation of the world, with a corresponding lack of logic, are integral parts of this absurdity.

Dandelion Salad
This surrealists skit was from late eighties and it aired the story of “most miserable” Yugoslav family called Wretches. This family lives in a tent on a lawn, with a lot of small children. This maybe announced tent settlements for Bosnian refugees used five to six years later in Croatia. In one scene all Wretches family members have grass for lunch. Many people know that the dandelion salad and some other plants were among the wartime menu specialties in many Bosnian cities/towns such as Sarajevo, Gorazde, Srebrenica and Mostar.

Literally Breaking Up of Families
This episode shows political opposites within a family that still lives in the same apartment, but literally each member fights each other. Father and son control one part of the apartment, and the mother and the second son control the other half. The rooms, pantry, hallway, front door, bathroom, all of this is considered the conquered spoils ‘of one of the warring parties’. The demarcation line goes through a building and even over the apartment. Perhaps the best association to this scene is divided Dobrinja Four (a suburb of Sarajevo), a few years after that episode was aired. This marginal Sarajevo neighborhood has been divided since Dayton Accord of 1995 between the Federation and the Serb Republic entities in Bosnia.  Today returnees to Dobrinja say that their bedrooms, bathrooms and dining rooms are in one, and outside toilet, living room and hallway in the other entity of Bosnia. Unfortunately today this division does not apply only to the town of Dobrinja.

Militarized News Stations/Reports
The imaginary news report from future 1992 was produced by surrealists in 1989. The news anchor and other staff are shown wearing Yugoslav army uniforms.The news announcer is portrayed as a hollow-eyed, starving, looking forward to a pate gift. Studio is visibly rusty. Everywhere are army signs, and even the news being read are military-oriented. A few years after this episode, as is known, the Yugoslav National Army (JNA) fought in Slovenia and Croatia. There was talk of a possible military coup or the establishment of military and police authorities in Yugoslavia.

In reality the  radio and television broadcast Sarajevo station building was repeatedly shelled in 1992. The TV station employees often slept overnight at the workplace because it was safer. Sometimes announcers reported on camera unshaven, disheveled and strikingly thin.

Top List Surrealists Have not spared international politics
One of the episodes showed so-called international “negotiations between the European and American politicians”. This is a skit that was created when the war already raged in Croatia and the Bosnian war was expected to happen. On this occasion they recorded the alleged negotiations between foreign diplomats trying to find a solution to the state of war in the former Yugoslavia. Negotiations have caused misunderstandings and quarrels among European politicians, which in turn led to strife and war between their countries. A US diplomat pretended to be interested only in business, and that he did not want to interfere in the problems of the European continent.

This all reminds of global events in the1990s. In the UN Security Council there were frequent verbal conflicts among representatives of France, Germany, Britain, Russia and the United States over policy towards Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia, and later on Kosovo. But even without this non-unified approach to the Balkans, this sketch may have announced a number of later misunderstandings and discord among European and American politicians. The surrealists display renewal of nationalism in developed countries, and today we witness the rise of right-wing movements in many EU governments. Then, in addition to financial crisis in the EU there is the fear of a possible break-up of the European Union, as the Surrealists indirectly showed.

Sarajevo version of Monty Python
It is already known that the Surrealists were on the trail of the famous BBC series Monty Python. And in fact you can see some parallels. Surrealists were not hiding that they Pythons were among their role models. For example, in some episodes of Monty Python, British army officer would suddenly enter the camera frame during presented news and would disperse all who are present, due to alleged censorship of the news reports because they were allegedly vulgar. In several surrealists episodes, Branko Djuric Duro would burst in as a military personnel, a uniformed doorman or the news stations’ security guard, and would “abolish” any recording of the news because smoking was not allowed in the studio. Then,in another sketch called “The Smile of the Blue Adriatic” Nele Karajlic played a waiter who falls to the ground as soon as he hears the words “it’s okay”. Then the others present would have to sing him a Dalmatian song to help him get up. Pythons and the BBC filmed a scene in which a couple of customers were entering the store for a yoga mattress. In this store it is not recommended to pronounce the words “yoga mattress” because the salesman, if he hears that word, immediately shoves a bag over his head, goes into a crate and shuts up. To stop with this, those present around him must sing some Marseillaise.

In a scene from the movie “The Meaning of Monty Python’s Life”, a multitude of small children of pre-school age, sing a song about the sanctity of sperm by the Catholic understanding. Of course, it is expected that children are small enough that they might not understand what they sing and what the scenario conveys, but they sing flawlessly. At the same time the song is calling on pagans, heretics and others that they are spilling the sperm over the hills and valleys, angering God Himself by this act, as opposed to Catholics who kept every sacred sperm. In one surrealists show preschool children participate in the already-mentioned scene of ethnic and religious segregation in Bosnia. Although it is expected that children do not yet know all the political and national terms, they have used adult terminology adults. For example, children from so-called Croatian group loudly profess to want to come together with Muslims in the game aberečke aber tude.

Musical and ironic anticipation
Speaking of musicians, it is common knowledge that the same surrealists were movers of a satirical parody rock movement New Primitives, for which Goran Bregovic said that they represented an authentic Yugoslav response to punk. New Primitives, led by the rock band No Smoking, had a similar correspondence between the texts of their songs and the reality in the coming years.

For example, No Smoking song “Path to the Banovici Mine” was published in 1983. This song announced and described location of the tragic death of miners that took place in the late eighties in the pit Raspotočje, which is in the song, and almost identical tragedy in Aleksinac mine in Serbia, also at that time. In the same album there is the song “Cheyenne Go.”It described the displacement of population from Kosovo. Also, the song “Drina canyon” of 1989 has verses that say: “It will be the easiest for you children, because you are accustomed to going to bed early, soon we will all have permission to be out only by nine.” These words are direct association to curfew policy instituted by authorities during the war when people were not allowed on the streets after certain time.

Surreal Is Not Beyond Crazy
Because of these similarities between the real and the unreal, the former cast member of Top List Surrealists, Boris Siber Sibi, said: “I am no longer Surrealists, now I’m a realist.” Zenit Đozić, also a veteran of surrealists, denied all insinuations that some members of the team were the children of military personnel, and as such allegedly had an opportunity to get to certain information in relation to the events which are used in their skits. “Some people claim that some of us, for example Sibi and Nele, are the sons of military men, so we could come to some information, this is nonsense. I mean, there were secrets, so if we were to revealed them in the show we would be strangled for offering the secrets to the people, we are not hiding anything. I mean, I do not know, but crazy things here come off as serious and real. ”


I believe that surrealists knew more than they are willing to disclose today. Too many things were shown in their show to be a coincidence. Your thoughts?



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